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BEFORE THERE WAS A 9/11 - FDNY APPARATUS 1958-1980 (DVD) 

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BEFORE THERE WAS A 9/11 - FDNY APPARATUS 1958-1980 (DVD)
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BEFORE THERE WAS A 9/11 - FDNY APPARATUS 1958-1980

40 years Before There Was A 9/11, Bill Hass used his 8mm color movie camera to film FDNY fire apparatus in action. Most units are filmed during training evolutions.

Some historic fire apparatus contained on this DVD include FDNY's "Super Pumper" when it was new in 1965 and FDNY's last two "Water Tower" units, a 1929 Seagrave and 1930 American LaFrance.

Also shown in this DVD are old American LaFrance, Mack, Seagrave, FWD, Maxim, Hahn and Ward LaFrance pumpers, aerials, elevated platforms, tower ladders, rescue and squad apparatus, including
- FDNY Water Tower 4, Manhattan (1958)
- FDNY Fire Boat "Harry M. Archer" (new), Manhattan (1958)
- FDNY Water Tower 6, Brooklyn (1958)
- FDNY Ladder 116, Queens (1959)
- FDNY Tower Ladder 14, Manhattan (1966)
- FDNY Tower Ladder 13, Manhattan (1971)
- FDNY Rescue 1, (brief clip) Manhattan (1975)
- FDNY Engine 34, Manhattan (1959)
- FDNY Ladder 24, Manhattan (1959)
- And much, much more FDNY apparatus
- Hand-drawn and horse-drawn apparatus are also included

Scene Description

From the 8mm Color Movie Films of Bill Hass, this DVD runs for 57 minutes and 28 seconds.

Scene 1, Opening Titles

Scene 2
Start Time: 34.53 seconds
Super Pumper System, Brooklyn 1965
1965 Mack model F, Super Pumper, 8800 galons pere minute
1965 Mack model F, Super Pumper Tender, carries 10,000 feet of hose
1951 Ward LaFrance quad converted to super pumper hose tender
1965 Mack C-85 Super Pumper Satellite 1
1965 Mack C-85 Super Pumper Satellite 2

Scene 3
Start Time: 04 min 18.72 sec Training Drill, Manhattan 1958
1929 Seagrave 65-foot #54435, Water Tower 3, Manhattan
quartered with Engine 1 at 142 West 31st St., Manhattan
1958 Mathis fireboat "Harry M. Archer", Fireboat 6, Foot of Grand St, at East River
Also at this drill were a Mack Model L pumper, and a 1956 American LaFrance 700 Series 85-foot tillered aerial ladder truck, no doors, vertical windshield, possibly Ladder 18.

Scene 4
Start Time: 15 min 12.04 secs
Training Drill, Brooklyn 1958
1930 American-LaFrance 65-foot #6662, Water Tower 6, Brooklyn
quartered with Engine 211, 26 Hooper St., Brooklyn

Scene 5
Start Time: 22 min 13.09 secs
Response
Ladder 116, 37-20 29th St., Queens
1959 Mack C-85 Maxim 85-foot steel aerial, open cab

Scene 6
Start Time: 22 min 40.96 secs
Training Drill, 1966
Tower Ladder 14, 120 East 125th St., Manhattan
1966 Mack C-85 diesel, 75-foot aerialscope

Scene 7
Start Time: 23 min 57.03 secs
Training Drill, 1971
Tower Ladder 13, 159 East 85th St., Manhattan
1971 Mack CF, 75-foot aerialscope

Scene 8
Start Time: 24 min 16.48 secs
Backing into quarters
Rescue 1, 33 West 43rd St., Manhattan
1971 Mack model R, Providence body

Scene 9
Start Time: 24 min 32.73 secs
Engine 34, 440 West 38th St., Manhattan parked on street
1959 Mack C-85 750-GPM pumper

Scene 10
Start Time: 24 min 53.05 secs
Training Drill
Ladder 24 and Engine 1, 142 West 31st St., Manhattan
Ladder 24 1959 Mack C-85 Magirus 100-foot steel aerial, open cab
Engine 1 1954 Mack L pumper, open cab

Scene 11
Start Time: 27 min 04.12 secs
Training Drill
Ladder 106, 124 Greenpoint Ave., Brooklyn
1938 FWD 85-foot wood aerial with 1948 Ward LaFrance tractor

Scene 12
Start Time: 27 min 53.77 secs
Chauffeur Training
Spare Ladder 102, 894 Bedford Ave., Brooklyn
Heavily-modified 1931 American-LaFrance wood aerial with 1947 Ward LaFrance tractor

Scene 13
Start Time: 28 min 17.13 secs
Inter-Borough Training Drill
Engine 210, 160 Carlton Ave., Brooklyn
1954 Mack L 1000-GPM pumper, open cab
Spare Ladder 6, 77 Canal St., Manhattan
1941 Seagrave 75-foot wood aerial

Scene 14
Start Time: 28 min 54.13 secs
Training Drill, 1959
Engine 259, 33-51 Greenpoint Ave., Queens
1959 Mack C-85 750-gpm pumper on hydrant
Ladder 128, 33-49 Greenpoint Ave., Queens
1937 Seagrave 85-foot wood aerial

Scene 15
Start Time: 29 min 55.66 secs
Fire on West 63rd St., Manhattan
Engine 74, 207 West 77th St., 1946 Ward LaFrance 750-GPM pumper, 200 gallon booster tank, open cab, top booster reel
Ladder 25, 205 West 77th St., 1953 American-LaFrance 700 series, 85-foot aerial, no doors
Engine 40, 142 West 63rd St., 1947 Mack L pumper
Ladder 35, 142 West 63rd St., 1938 FWD 85-foot wood aerial

Scene 16
Start Time: 31 min 35.56 secs
Fire on Pearl St., Manhattan
Engine 32, 49 Beekman St., 1954 Mack L pumper
Engine 12, 243 West 20th St., 1953 Ward LaFrance 750-GPM pumper
Engine 7, 217 East 28th St., 1954 Mack L 1000-gpm pumper
Ladder 6, 77 Canal St., 1941 Seagrave 85-foot wood aerial
Ladder 1, 104 Duane St., 1956 American LaFrance 85-foot steel aerial, no doors, vertical windshield

Scene 17
Start Time: 33 min 24.60 secs
3-alarm fire, Penn Textiles, 401 Broadway, Manhattan
Patrol 2, International Harvester (IH) truck
Engine 7, 100 Duane St., 1954 Mack L 1000-gpm pumper
Ladder 1, 104 Duane St., 1956 American LaFrance 85-foot steel aerial, no doors, vertical windshield
Ladder 20, 155 Mercer St., 1937 Seagrave 85-foot wood aerial

Scene 18
Start Time: 34 min 26.83 secs
Training Drill, Manhattan
Engine 5, 340 E. 14th St., 1954 Mack L 1000-gpm pumper
Engine 16, 225 East 25th St., 1954 Mack L pumper
Ladder 7, 100 Duane St., 1937 Seagrave 85-foot wood aerial
Squad 5, 1940 Mack L hose wagon with 3-man cab, converted to squad in 1955
Battalion Chief 76 Ford
Patrol 3
Gas mask drill
Squad 5 responding to box alarm

Scene 19
Start Time: 37 min 38.79 secs
Washing apparatus
Ladder 18, 185 Broome St., Manhattan
1956 American LaFrance 85-foot steel aerial, no doors, vertical windshield

Scene 20
Start Time: 38 min 23.06 secs
Training Drill at North River
Ladder 24, 142 West 31st St., Manhattan, 1959 Mack C-85, Magirus 100-foot steel aerial
Engine 23, 215 West 58th St., Manhattan, 1947 Mack L 750-GPM pumper
Ladder 24, 124 West 31st St., 1959 Mack C-85, Magirus 100-foot steel aerial
Engine 23, 215 West 58th St., 1947 Mack L 750-GPM pumper
Engine 26, 220 West 37th St., 1954 Mack L 1000-GPM pumper
Engine 34, 440 West 38th St., 1959 Mack C-85 pumper
Gas Mask drill.
Using pier pipe, cellar pipe, foam generator, and foam liquid mixer.

Scene 21
Start Time: 41 min 19.07 secs
newly organized ladder company in 1960 Spare Ladder 85, 3067 Richmond Road, Staten Island
1941 Seagrave 75-foot wood aerial with 1948 Ward LaFrance tractor

Scene 22
Start Time: 41 min 39.33 secs
1971 fire, location and companies unknown
1971 Mack CF 75-foot Tower Ladder
1968 Mack CF pumper

Scene 23
Start Time: 41 min 56.38 secs
Wetting-down ruins of demolished building
Mack CF pumper

Scene 24
Start Time: 42 min 12.36 secs
Parade of antique fire apparatus down 5th Avenue at 42nd Street, Manhattan
FDNY reserve Mack C-85 pumper
Shady Grove Antique Fire Dept., Brookhaven, NY:
Mack L pumper
American-LaFrance wood aerial
American-LaFrance pumper
Ford T chief’s car
Freeport, NY 1906 Nott steamer with 1916 American-LaFrance tractor

Scene 25
Start Time: 43 min 53.26 secs
Fire in Jersey City, NJ
Truck 6, 1967 American LaFrance 90-foot Aerochief elevating platform
Engine 6, 1961 American LaFrance 900 Series pumper

Scene 26
Start Time: 45 min 48.54 secs
Engine 6, Hoboken, NJ
Maxim pumper with Santa on board
Engine 3, Hoboken, NJ
Maxim pumper backing into quarters on Jefferson Street

Scene 27
Start Time: 46 min 25.15 secs
Response at Newark, NJ, 1975
Spare Engine 21, Mack B pumper
Engine 4, Mack B pumper
Engine 1, Mack R pumper
Ladder 2, then-new Seagrave cab-forward 100-foot tillered aerial (lime yellow)

Scene 28
Start Time: 47 min 45.96 secs
Hand-drawn fire engines on parade at Newark, NJ 1966
Nutley, NJ four-wheel parade hose carriage
Resolution Hose Company #3, Millville, NJ 1855 hand pumper
Hand-drawn two-wheel chemical with copper tank
Hand-drawn two-wheel hose reel
Hackettstown, NJ rotary hand pumper

Scene 29
Start Time: 48 min 33.41 secs
Dover, NJ
1885 Clapp & Jones steamer on parade with horses

Scene 30
Start Time: 49 min 07.18 secs
Maxfield Engine Company #1, Boonton, NJ
1915 American-LaFrance Metropolitan steamer on parade with horses

Scene 31
Start Time: 49 min 59.86 secs
Lyndhurst, NJ
1917 American-LaFrance pumper on parade

Scene 32
Start Time: 50 min 11.71 secs
Finderne, NJ
1968 Hahn/75-foot Snorkel on parade

Scene 33
Start Time: 50 min 38.57 secs
Horse-drawn fire engines on parade
Belmar, NJ 1862 Silsby steamer
Exempt Firemen’s Association, North Plainfield, NJ 1863 Amoskeag steamer
Bloomsbury, NJ 1907 Waterous horse-drawn gasoline pumper

Scene 34
Start Time: 51 min 41.00 secs
Response at Bristol, PA
Hahn pumper
Maxim aerial
Mack model E pumper

Scene 35
Start Time: 52 min 22.04 secs
ex-Troy, OH 1938 Seagrave aerial
changing hands from former owner Jerry Voisinet, Piqua, OH
to new owner Bill Darrow, Xenia, OH, about 1977

Scene 36
Start Time: 53 min 02.41 secs
Last run of fire horses (black-and-white)
St. Louis, MO 1927
Ahrens steamer and Robinson hose wagon respond
1926 Ahrens-Fox model P-S-2 1300-GPM piston pumper takes their place
John P. Ahrens, vice president of Ahrens-Fox, is in this scene

Scene 37
Start Time: 53 min 34.88 secs
Winfield, Kansas
1931 American-LaFrance V-12 pumper

Closing Credits
Start Time: 53 min 52.89 secs
End Time: 57 min 28 secs

The Hass family has been collecting history, documents and photographs about fire apparatus since 1911, starting with Grace Hass, then her son Bill Hass (water towers), grandson Ed Hass (Ahrens-Fox), and great-grandson Jason Todd (Seagrave). Ed Hass, author of numerous books and articles about fire apparatus, was one of five founders of the Ahrens-Fox Fire Buffs' Association (AFFBA) in 1970; he was editor/publisher of AFFBA's quarterly magazine, the Silver Sphere, from 1970 to 1990, and currently serves as their webmaster. Since 1979, Ed has owned a 1953 Ahrens-Fox pumper (ex-Milford, NJ).

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